Diplomacy - Revision history

76561198048502585 at 12:13, 28 August 2026

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	~~__NOTOC__~~		{{SkillInfobox\|lang=en\|id=skill_diplomacy}}

	'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.		'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.
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	Keep in mind that the map template may generate neutral squads that will never join or always join rendering the modifiers irrelevant.		Keep in mind that the map template may generate neutral squads that will never join or always join rendering the modifiers irrelevant.
	Also, the modifiers may be changed at any point in balance patches - the above is based on version 0.80.24		Also, the modifiers may be changed at any point in balance patches - the above is based on version 0.80.24


	==Levels==		==Levels==
	{{#invoke:SkillsOverview\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}		{{#invoke:SkillsOverview\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	==Skill ~~Synergies~~==		==Chances==
			{{SkillChances\|lang=en\|id=skill_diplomacy}}

			==Skill synergies==
	Knowing '''Diplomacy''' will give the following benefits to other subskills:		Knowing '''Diplomacy''' will give the following benefits to other subskills:
	{{#invoke:SkillSynergies\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}		{{#invoke:SkillSynergies\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	==Artifact ~~Effects~~==		==Artifact effects==
	{{#invoke:SkillArtifacts\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}		{{#invoke:SkillArtifacts\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

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			==Related pages==
	{{SkillsNavbox\|lang=en}}		{{SkillsNavbox\|lang=en}}
	[[Category:Hero Skills]]		[[Category:Hero Skills]]
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76561198868168807 at 13:43, 10 July 2026

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	* Hero primary stats (+5 per point)		* Hero primary stats (+5 per point)

	Keep in mind that the map template may generate ~~Neutral stacks~~ that will never join or always join rendering the modifiers ~~irellevant~~.		Keep in mind that the map template may generate neutral squads that will never join or always join rendering the modifiers irrelevant.
	Also the modifiers may be changed at any point in balance ~~patched~~ - the above is based on version 0.80.24		Also, the modifiers may be changed at any point in balance patches - the above is based on version 0.80.24

76561198868168807 at 13:40, 10 July 2026

2026-07-10T13:40:56Z

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	From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + aggression level.		From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + aggression level.

	Apart from the diplomacy skills, ~~player~~'s strength is affected by:		Apart from the diplomacy skills, players' strength is affected by:
	* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])		* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])
	* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.		* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.

76561198868168807 at 13:32, 10 July 2026

2026-07-10T13:32:56Z

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	'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.		'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.

	From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + ~~agreesion~~ level.		From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + aggression level.

	Apart from the diplomacy skills, player's strength is affected by:		Apart from the diplomacy skills, player's strength is affected by:

76561198868168807 at 13:32, 10 July 2026

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	From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + agreesion level.		From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + agreesion level.

	Apart from the diplomacy skills, player' strength is affected by:		Apart from the diplomacy skills, player's strength is affected by:
	* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])		* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])
	* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.		* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.

76561198030885282 at 16:10, 22 June 2026

2026-06-22T16:10:46Z

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	'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.		'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.

	From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack ~~up to a +40% increased chance~~, if player ~~rating is highter~~.		From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack. A join will happen, if the player's armystrength + modifiers > neutral stack's armystrength + agreesion level.

	Apart from the diplomacy skills, player ~~rating~~ is affected by:		Apart from the diplomacy skills, player' strength is affected by:
	* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])		* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])
	* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.		* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.

76561198030885282 at 16:02, 22 June 2026

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	'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.		'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.

			From the game files (Core.zip — DB/diplomacy_info.json, the field/enum names in the game's IL2CPP metadata and others) it looks the the chance to join is affected by the strength ratio of the neutral stack against player stack up to a +40% increased chance, if player rating is highter.

			Apart from the diplomacy skills, player rating is affected by:
			* Troop count [9, 13, 21, 31, 44, 64, 150] per tier (hitpoints seem irrellevant here and the neutral stacks are valued higher per tier [25, 50, 75, 125, 225, 425, 1250])
			* Matching unit - an exact match applying a x3 modifier to troop count and a partial match (different upgrade path, but same unit) applying x2.
			* Hero level (+200 per level, making a level 10 hero equivalent of aprox 64 tier 4 troops)
			* Hero primary stats (+5 per point)

			Keep in mind that the map template may generate Neutral stacks that will never join or always join rendering the modifiers irellevant.
			Also the modifiers may be changed at any point in balance patched - the above is based on version 0.80.24


	==Levels==		==Levels==

76561198048502585 at 21:04, 9 June 2026

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	==Skill Synergies==		==Skill Synergies==
	Knowing '''Diplomacy''' will give the following benefits to other ~~sub-skills~~:		Knowing '''Diplomacy''' will give the following benefits to other subskills:
	{{#invoke:SkillSynergies\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}		{{#invoke:SkillSynergies\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	~~{\|class="wikitable" style="width:100%;"~~

	~~\|colspan=2 style="object-position:left;width:27%;"\|[[File:Skill Advanced Recruitment.png\|70px]]<span style="padding-left:20px;vertical-align:top;"><b>[[Recruitment\|Advanced Recruitment]]</b></span>~~
	~~\|colspam=6 style="padding-left:15px;padding-top:10px;"\|[[File:recruitment_sub_veterans.png\|30px]]<span style="vertical-align:baseline;padding-left:12px;"><b>Veterans</b></span>~~
	~~<span style="display:inline-block;color:#DDD;">Tier-4 creature growth in all your cities increases by 2. <span style="color:peru;">This bonus is doubled if the Hero knows Diplomacy.</span></span>~~
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	~~\|colspan=2 style="object-position:left;width:27%;"\|[[File:Skill Defense Expert.png\|70px]]<span style="padding-left:20px;vertical-align:top;"><b>[[Defense\|Expert Defense]]</b></span>~~
	~~\|colspam=6 style="padding-left:15px;padding-top:10px;"\|[[File:defense_sub_wizard_contract.png\|30px]]<span style="vertical-align:baseline;padding-left:12px;"><b>Wizard Contract</b></span>~~
	~~<span style="display:inline-block;color:#DDD;">Friendly units take -10% Magic Damage. <span style="color:peru;">This bonus is doubled if the Hero knows Diplomacy.</span></span>~~
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	\|}

	==Artifact Effects==		==Artifact Effects==
	{{#invoke:SkillArtifacts\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}		{{#invoke:SkillArtifacts\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	* [[File:Holy sigil of insara artifact.png\|60px]] Holy Sigil of Insara grants all unlearned Diplomacy subskills, as well as those of [[Leadership]], [[Insight]] and [[Tactics]].

	{{SkillsNavbox\|lang=en}}		{{SkillsNavbox\|lang=en}}
	[[Category:Hero Skills]]		[[Category:Hero Skills]]

76561198048502585 at 13:04, 8 June 2026

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			__NOTOC__

	'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.		'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.
	~~{{Skill table~~
	~~\|name=Diplomacy~~
	~~\|skillimage1=Skill Diplomacy.png~~
	~~\|desc1=Provides a chance of neutral squads offering to join the hero's army for Gold instead of fighting them.~~
	~~\|skillimage2=Skill Advanced Diplomacy.png~~
	~~\|desc2=Provides a chance of neutral squads offering to join the hero's army for Gold instead of fighting them. +25% Persuasion Power in Diplomacy.~~
	~~\|skillimage3=Skill Expert Diplomacy.png~~
	~~\|desc3=Provides a chance of neutral squads offering to join the hero's army for Gold instead of fighting them. +50% Persuasion Power in Diplomacy.~~

	~~\|subname1=Larger Than Life~~
	~~\|subimage1=diplomacy_sub_larger_than_life.png~~
	~~\|subdesc1=Neutral squads view the hero's army as +25% more powerful than it is, increasing the chance that they will join or flee. This bonus is doubled if the hero knows [[Battlecraft]].~~

	~~\|subname2=Eloquence~~
	~~\|subimage2=diplomacy_sub_eloquence.png~~
	~~\|subdesc2=–75% to the cost of surrendering.~~

	~~\|subname3=Folk Hero~~
	~~\|subimage3=diplomacy_sub_folk_hero.png~~
	~~\|subdesc3=+50% Persuasion Power in Diplomacy with neutral squads from the hero's faction.~~

	~~\|subname4~~=~~Art of the Deal~~		==Levels==
	\|~~subimage4~~=~~diplomacy_sub_art_of_the_deal.png~~		{{#invoke:SkillsOverview\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}
	\|~~subdesc4~~=~~Neutral squads take –15% Gold to recruit. This bonus is doubled if the hero knows [[Economy]].~~

	~~\|subname5=Vagrant Army~~		==Skill Synergies==
	~~\|subimage5=diplomacy_sub_vagrant_army.png~~		Knowing '''Diplomacy''' will give the following benefits to other sub-skills:
	~~\|subdesc5=Friendly creatures with neutral affinity gain an additional +100% of the hero’s Attack and Defense to their Attack and Defense.~~		{{#invoke:SkillSynergies\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	~~\|subname6=Negotiator~~
	~~\|subimage6=diplomacy_sub_negotiator.png~~
	~~\|subdesc6=+20% to the number of units from neutral squads joining the hero's army.~~
	}}
	===Skill Synergies===
	Knowing Diplomacy will give the following benefits to other sub-skills:

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	~~</table>~~		\|}

			==Artifact Effects==
			{{#invoke:SkillArtifacts\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	~~===Artifact Effects===~~
	* [[File:Holy sigil of insara artifact.png\|60px]] Holy Sigil of Insara grants all unlearned Diplomacy subskills, as well as those of [[Leadership]], [[Insight]] and [[Tactics]].		* [[File:Holy sigil of insara artifact.png\|60px]] Holy Sigil of Insara grants all unlearned Diplomacy subskills, as well as those of [[Leadership]], [[Insight]] and [[Tactics]].

	{{SkillsNavbox}}		{{SkillsNavbox\|lang=en}}
	[[Category:Hero Skills]]		[[Category:Hero Skills]]

76561198868168807 at 20:53, 14 May 2026

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			'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.
	{{Skill table		{{Skill table
	\|name=Diplomacy		\|name=Diplomacy

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			__NOTOC__

	'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.		'''Diplomacy''' is a [[Skills\|skill]] that gives heroes a chance to pay and recruit enemy neutral squads instead of fighting them, provided that their army is strong enough to intimidate them into doing so.
	~~{{Skill table~~
	~~\|name=Diplomacy~~
	~~\|skillimage1=Skill Diplomacy.png~~
	~~\|desc1=Provides a chance of neutral squads offering to join the hero's army for Gold instead of fighting them.~~
	~~\|skillimage2=Skill Advanced Diplomacy.png~~
	~~\|desc2=Provides a chance of neutral squads offering to join the hero's army for Gold instead of fighting them. +25% Persuasion Power in Diplomacy.~~
	~~\|skillimage3=Skill Expert Diplomacy.png~~
	~~\|desc3=Provides a chance of neutral squads offering to join the hero's army for Gold instead of fighting them. +50% Persuasion Power in Diplomacy.~~

	~~\|subname1=Larger Than Life~~
	~~\|subimage1=diplomacy_sub_larger_than_life.png~~
	~~\|subdesc1=Neutral squads view the hero's army as +25% more powerful than it is, increasing the chance that they will join or flee. This bonus is doubled if the hero knows [[Battlecraft]].~~

	~~\|subname2=Eloquence~~
	~~\|subimage2=diplomacy_sub_eloquence.png~~
	~~\|subdesc2=–75% to the cost of surrendering.~~

	~~\|subname3=Folk Hero~~
	~~\|subimage3=diplomacy_sub_folk_hero.png~~
	~~\|subdesc3=+50% Persuasion Power in Diplomacy with neutral squads from the hero's faction.~~

	~~\|subname4~~=~~Art of the Deal~~		==Levels==
	\|~~subimage4~~=~~diplomacy_sub_art_of_the_deal.png~~		{{#invoke:SkillsOverview\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}
	\|~~subdesc4~~=~~Neutral squads take –15% Gold to recruit. This bonus is doubled if the hero knows [[Economy]].~~

	~~\|subname5=Vagrant Army~~		==Skill Synergies==
	~~\|subimage5=diplomacy_sub_vagrant_army.png~~		Knowing '''Diplomacy''' will give the following benefits to other sub-skills:
	~~\|subdesc5=Friendly creatures with neutral affinity gain an additional +100% of the hero’s Attack and Defense to their Attack and Defense.~~		{{#invoke:SkillSynergies\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	~~\|subname6=Negotiator~~
	~~\|subimage6=diplomacy_sub_negotiator.png~~
	~~\|subdesc6=+20% to the number of units from neutral squads joining the hero's army.~~
	}}
	===Skill Synergies===
	Knowing Diplomacy will give the following benefits to other sub-skills:

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	~~</table>~~		\|}

			==Artifact Effects==
			{{#invoke:SkillArtifacts\|display\|lang=en\|skill=skill_diplomacy}}

	~~===Artifact Effects===~~
	* [[File:Holy sigil of insara artifact.png\|60px]] Holy Sigil of Insara grants all unlearned Diplomacy subskills, as well as those of [[Leadership]], [[Insight]] and [[Tactics]].		* [[File:Holy sigil of insara artifact.png\|60px]] Holy Sigil of Insara grants all unlearned Diplomacy subskills, as well as those of [[Leadership]], [[Insight]] and [[Tactics]].

	{{SkillsNavbox}}		{{SkillsNavbox\|lang=en}}
	[[Category:Hero Skills]]		[[Category:Hero Skills]]